Free-hits in Tests?

[Craig]

Michael Slater brought it up today in the post tea session when Brett Lee bowled a no-ball and he mentioned it along the lines of how there is a free-hit for no balls in ODIs and T20 and maybe it should be considered. Bill Lawry disagreed and said maybe something like four runs for a no-ball to stop bowlers from bowling no-balls. Personally they are a sin for a bowler and really shouldn't be bowled by any Test bowler worth his salt.

But I wouldn't go for either one.

 

[Flem274*]

This will go down a storm with purists.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

We see enough wickets falling to noballs. The current system works fine enough as a deterrent.

 

[Craig]

But the other more important question is Michael Slater a goose?

 

[Matt79]

****ing stupid idea. We have 20/20 and ODIs to screw around with 'entertaining' gimics. Test cricket should be changed as little as possible.

I haven't noticed no-balls being a major problem, or the lack of dumbass wanks for ignorant fools to gawk at, ruining the cricket in recent times, so I'd have to vote against it, and say that Slats was just running low on things to contribute.

 

[Flem274*]

Only one way to find out.

















Shoot him and put him in the pot for dinner and see what he tastes like.

 

[Matt79]

Only one way to find out.



Shoot him and put him in the pot for dinner and see what he tastes like.

If he tastes like Phlegm, we have our answer.

 

[Josh]

No, there shouldn't

and

No, he isn't

 

[Craig]

If he tastes like Phlegm, we have our answer.

And how did you find this out?

 

[Flem274*]

If he tastes like Phlegm, we have our answer.

*Loads shotgun* STAY AWAY CANNABIL!!!

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

And how did you find this out?

Well he did say "if".

And I'm sure we've all taste phlegm before. If not, you're dead... or straight.

 

[iamdavid]

Personally they are a sin for a bowler and really shouldn't be bowled by any Test bowler worth his salt. .

Lol really ****s me to hear people say this or things along those lines, I hear it so often around my grade club and in cricket circles and invariably the guy who says it is not a bowler (atleast not one of any quality). "I've never bowled a no-ball in my career and no bowler should ever overstep"...thats because you're 20 stone and you bowl off 3 paces.
If you are accelerating through the crease correctly and really following through with energy, building up momentum through your run-up, then you will occasionally bowl no balls, its a fact of life, dosent mean you're a useless muppet or a failure as a bowler or that you arent putting the work in.
Some people have a bigger problem than others but all quick bowlers who are doing their thing correctly will bowl no-balls, hell Wasim Akram had a bigger no-ball problem than most club bowlers.

It is annoying and something which one should strive to avoid, and when it gets over the top it can become a real problem and throw rythym out completely, but it happens.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Admittedly it's true for a spinner. Which makes Rawl Lewis look even worse.

 

[Manee]

Lol really ****s me to hear people say this or things along those lines, I hear it so often around my grade club and in cricket circles and invariably the guy who says it is not a bowler (atleast not one of any quality). "I've never bowled a no-ball in my career and no bowler should ever overstep"...thats because you're 20 stone and you bowl off 3 paces.
If you are accelerating through the crease correctly and really following through with energy, building up momentum through your run-up, then you will occasionally bowl no balls, its a fact of life, dosent mean you're a useless muppet or a failure as a bowler or that you arent putting the work in.
Some people have a bigger problem than others but all quick bowlers who are doing their thing correctly will bowl no-balls, hell Wasim Akram had a bigger no-ball problem than most club bowlers.

It is annoying and something which one should strive to avoid, and when it gets over the top it can become a real problem and throw rythym out completely, but it happens.

I could not agree more. A fast bowler strives to run, jump and stretch toward the batsman and occasionally, you'll just go that extra bit more. And it is annoying, because when you go that extra bit more, the ball just feels like it has come out better and faster and more often than not, it is a play and miss or a wicket...

'Tis a hard life

 

[Mister Wright]

All of them are gooses in the commentary box, but Slater's up there at the top, like Tubby adds nothing to cricket commentary.

This further goes to show it.

I'm not exactly sure what the back foot no ball rule was, but I've got no problem with the law as it currently is. Perhaps two runs for a no ball, but nothing other than that.

 

[Richard]

Lol really ****s me to hear people say this or things along those lines, I hear it so often around my grade club and in cricket circles and invariably the guy who says it is not a bowler (atleast not one of any quality). "I've never bowled a no-ball in my career and no bowler should ever overstep"...thats because you're 20 stone and you bowl off 3 paces.
If you are accelerating through the crease correctly and really following through with energy, building up momentum through your run-up, then you will occasionally bowl no balls, its a fact of life, dosent mean you're a useless muppet or a failure as a bowler or that you arent putting the work in.
Some people have a bigger problem than others but all quick bowlers who are doing their thing correctly will bowl no-balls, hell Wasim Akram had a bigger no-ball problem than most club bowlers.

It is annoying and something which one should strive to avoid, and when it gets over the top it can become a real problem and throw rythym out completely, but it happens.

Spinners bowling no-balls is unacceptible, yet far, far too many spinners still bowl 'em.

There have always been the odd few seam-bowlers who've decided "I won't bowl no-balls" and never have. Michael Holding (off all 29 paces of his run-up), Ian Botham and Andre Nel are three examples. If these people can do it, anyone else can. The problem is that it's a problem virtually no seamers take seriously enough. Wasim Akram being the classic example.

In any case, the whole idea of the old no-ball rule was to give the batsman a free-hit. I'd not be in favour of the radical one-day free-hit rule, but I've come-up with a theorem of my own regarding how it'd be possible to do in the longer form.

EDIT: surprised at you Craig, you're normally so good with this public-polls lark!!

 

[Mister Wright]

Not 100% sure, but think I remember one test match where Nel bowled about 6 no balls in the space of half an hour.

 

[vic_orthdox]

I don't mind the wistful thinking of the old rule, because it would have been helpful to get that slightly earlier call of "no-ball" so that you can load up. That's where the suggestion came from, more off the cuff than anything. Anyways, against it, but I'd like to see maybe the back foot no-ball rule implemented in a Twenty20 domestic competition for a bit and see what the response is like.

 

[Richard]

Not 100% sure, but think I remember one test match where Nel bowled about 6 no balls in the space of half an hour.

Yeah, me too, that was when he was bowling abnormally.

With foot in normal position, he never oversteps or comes close.

 

[nightprowler10]

A big fat NO!