2006 Test still a forfeit for MCC

[Precambrian]

http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/375446.html

The MCC, the independent governor of cricket’s laws, has recommended the ICC overturn its awarding of a draw for the disputed England-Pakistan Test at The Oval in 2006. Originally the match was ruled the first forfeit in the game’s history, but the ICC changed the result at an executive board meeting in July.

The MCC world cricket committee, which includes current India captain Anil Kumble and former Test leaders Rahul Dravid, Michael Atherton, Shaun Pollock and Steve Waugh, met on Saturday and Sunday in New Delhi and decided “cricket is the worse for this decision”.

The committee chairman Tony Lewis wanted confirmation from the ICC that the original outcome of the match should stand. “The ICC has no power under the laws of cricket to decide that results should be altered, whether it feels it ‘inappropriate’ or otherwise,” the former England captain Lewis said. “The ICC’s decision is wrong and sets a very dangerous precedent. Cricket is the worse for this decision.”..........

ICC is well and truly ****ed.

Kudos to MCC, not for making the correct decision (it is), but for digging up the past, and making the storm bigger in the teacup.

 

[SJS]

There is always something to admire about and learn from the English

 

[Top_Cat]

Haha, and, of course, the worldwide "WTF?!" when the match result was overturned in the first place had no bearing on this.

 

[SJS]

One was always irritated when MCC and England were running cricket and delighted when that ended. Have often had occasions to regret that change. Here is another.

 

[Precambrian]

There is always something to admire about and learn from the English

There's always something to learn from everyone, Not just the British!

 

[SJS]

There's always something to learn from everyone, Not just the British!

Yes. From some you learn because you need to act as they do and , of course, there are others from whose actions you learn how not to act

 

[Precambrian]

True, however the MCC is not "fully" English, as the members of Governing Council include Kumble, Pollock etc.

Glad they took this decision. ICC really had no business in turning that match's results around. Begs the question, what is the ICC for then?

 

[SJS]

True, however the MCC is not "fully" English, as the members of Governing Council include Kumble, Pollock etc.

Glad they took this decision. ICC really had no business in turning that match's results around. Begs the question, what is the ICC for then?

Make money of course - as is each and every business setup

And in the process of running the business you pay bribes, pamper your customers whom you would love to kick down the stairs, sing praises of your suppliers if materials are in short supply and always grovel before your financiers

 

[Precambrian]

Make money of course - as is each and every business setup

And in the process of running the business you pay bribes, pamper your customers whom you would love to kick down the stairs, sing praises of your suppliers if materials are in short supply and always grovel before your financiers

But if that's all about it, Isn't BCCI far more efficient at it? Anyway they are contributing more than 50% of money as well as problems to cricket.

 

[Richard]

I'm sceptical that MCC's committee's words will have any bearing. But let's wait and see.

 

[pskov]

It's an interesting question, who has the authority to determine the results of matches? The ICC is the governing body of the sport, but the MCC are the lawmakers.

 

[Richard]

MCC aren't the lawmakers. MCC are merely the keepers of the law. No-one on any MCC committee has the power to alter the Laws Of Cricket the way they did up to 1993. They can merely recommend, as they have here.

It is up to ICC's members to bring forth law-changes. If a law-change is needed to allow this change of result to go through, then I suspect that is what will happen.

Else, it'll simply be a case of "oh well, the laws don't allow it, but everyone wants it, so never mind, we'll just airbrush the inconvenient bits".

 

[andruid]

For my money they should just say the match never was abandoned without a ball bowled due to an alien abduction.

 

[manali]

who cares abt MCC. ICC admitted their mistake and rightfully changed the result to draw and thats what should have done. Kudos to Inzi & PCB for standing up to the incompetent/racist officials like Daryl Hair.

 

[Richard]

who cares abt MCC.

One hell of a lot of people.

ICC admitted their mistake

No, they didn't, they never made any "mistake" in the deciding of the result. The people who changed the result had roughly nothing in common with those who made the original decision on it.

and rightfully changed the result to draw and thats what should have done.

No, they shouldn't. Even if a draw would've been a more accurate reflection of the game, the change of result set a dangerous precedent.

Kudos to Inzi & PCB for standing up to the incompetent/racist officials like Daryl Hair.

I wonder if itduzz is back. If not this is a very similar character.

 

[zaremba]

AWTA 100%. And dangerous precedent or not, the result was that Pakistan forfeited the game and therefore lost. No amount of politicking should ever have changed that.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

ICC admitted their mistake and rightfully changed the result to draw and thats what should have done. Kudos to Inzi & PCB for standing up to the incompetent/racist officials like Daryl Hair.

Utter tripe. The majority of cricket lovers had sympathy with Pakistan, not least because they gave up a winning position on a point of principle. Changing the result after was meaningless beyond setting an unnecessary precedent.

 

[GIMH]

Yeah, when the result was initially overturned, the majority felt it ridiculous as although Pakistan were harshly treated, they chose not to take the field and therefore to forfeit. So the match being labelled a draw actually set a dangerous precedent.