Best bowling option for Pakistan in WC

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Anyway mine would be:
Pollock
McGrath
Brett Lee and
Flintoff.

andmark said:

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Anyway mine would be:
Pollock
McGrath
Brett Lee and
Flintoff.

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I'm not sure their Pakistani bowlers...

Pup Clarke said:

I'm not sure their Pakistani bowlers...

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They're...

Richard said:

What do performances in more than 1 game do...? Yes, that's right. They cumulate. You then look at these games, rather than blurring what happens in them.

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How do you look one's career's performance? there is nothing as such as good game/bad game ratio which in use, averages are still remains a guide !!

Richard said:

Not every time at all, Warne's had successful matches against India.

Just because he tried his best doesn't mean he bowled as well as he is capable of doing.

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Which world do you live in?? When Warne himself talk about his failures against India, then how can you say he had success against India? Having one good figure out of 10doesn't make one successfull, otherwise Afridi would be regarded as world's best.

And its not as simple as you had tried to make it, that Warne failed against India smply coz he just didn't bowl well. Warne's failure had more to do with Indian batsmen being masters of leg spin, before Warne there was Abdul Qadir who terrorize almost all the batsmen of the world except the Indians.Now what would you say about Qadir, he failed in India just coz he didn't bowl as well as he did against the rest??

Richard said:

Except that he's been rubbish far, far more often than not...

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NO, he's been rubbish LATELY. After returning back from injury he was struggling but found his touch under the guidance of Waqar, with the exit of Waqar Rana is once again having problems. Mind you, he's still one of the best bowler at death in limited over games.

IndianByHeart said:

How do you look one's career's performance? there is nothing as such as good game/bad game ratio which in use, averages are still remains a guide !!

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What a ridiculous comment. As long as there are games played, there's such thing as a ratio, you pratt!

IndianByHeart said:

Which world do you live in?? When Warne himself talk about his failures against India, then how can you say he had success against India? Having one good figure out of 10doesn't make one successfull, otherwise Afridi would be regarded as world's best.

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Err, no, but Warne did not completely lack success against India.

And its not as simple as you had tried to make it, that Warne failed against India smply coz he just didn't bowl well. Warne's failure had more to do with Indian batsmen being masters of leg spin, before Warne there was Abdul Qadir who terrorize almost all the batsmen of the world except the Indians.Now what would you say about Qadir, he failed in India just coz he didn't bowl as well as he did against the rest??

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Qadir failed in other places as well, you know - everywhere outside Pakistan, in fact.

Quality legspin, when bowled well, will get wickets however well you play it. Just because there have been a few Indian batsmen who've played him well you'd have to be a fool to think he'd bowled as well as he normally does on several occasions.

Richard said:

What a ridiculous comment. As long as there are games played, there's such thing as a radio, you pratt!

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Why do you insist on misspelling "prat"?

And why do you insist on using it in so many threads?

(The real reason for quoting this will become clearer one day)...

IndianByHeart said:

NO, he's been rubbish LATELY. After returning back from injury he was struggling but found his touch under the guidance of Waqar, with the exit of Waqar Rana is once again having problems. Mind you, he's still one of the best bowler at death in limited over games.

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He's been rubbish many times in his career - near enough every time he's played England, South Africa and Australia, most times against Sri Lanka and about half his games against India.

marc71178 said:

Why do you insist on misspelling "prat"?

And why do you insist on using it in so many threads?

(The real reason for quoting this will become clearer one day)...

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I spell it how I like it spelt.

I insist on using it because it's a good alternative to ****.

Richard said:

What a ridiculous comment. As long as there are games played, there's such thing as a radio, you pratt!

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Radio??? Who the hell is talking about it??

Richard said:

Err, no, but Warne did not completely lack success against India.

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You continue to come up with rubbish statements, Warne had just ONE good game against India, one good game doesn't mean ANYTHING.If one game is all it takes to be successful then Jason Gillipse should be regarded as one of the greatest batsman on earth.

Richard said:

Qadir failed in other places as well, you know - everywhere outside Pakistan, in fact.

Quality legspin, when bowled well, will get wickets however well you play it. Just because there have been a few Indian batsmen who've played him well you'd have to be a fool to think he'd bowled as well as he normally does on several occasions.

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Qadir destroyed the best ever team on earth while playing in WI, and you claims that he failed everywhere outside Pakistan!! what a big lie that is! He had success against NZ while playing in NZ and Australia too.

You are a fool to think that Warne failed against India in all the test only coz he wasn't bowling all that well.Also its just a few Indian batsmen who played Warne well, it was a case of entire 11 eleven Indian batsmen who played Warne with ease in almost all the matches.Batsmen hailing from India are used to play quality spin from their childhood, thats why they find it much easier to tackle leg spin than say swing.Quality spinners like Warne and Qadir failed in India as they were up against the best leg spin players in the game.

Richard said:

He's been rubbish many times in his career - near enough every time he's played England, South Africa and Australia, most times against Sri Lanka and about half his games against India.

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He played Austrlalia at the start of his career when he wasn't impressive.And if he failed against England in Onedayers, then he had great success against England in test matches!!.As for matches against India and SL, i hope you understand that a pacer playing on dead subcontinental wkts can't be expected to come up with flying colors in all matches.Naveed has impressive record against India, and his record against SL is also a good one!So much so for ur good game /bad game rubbish.

IndianByHeart said:

Radio??? Who the hell is talking about it??

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If you really didn't realise the d was supposed to be a t you're losing the little senses you had...

IndianByHeart said:

You continue to come up with rubbish statements, Warne had just ONE good game against India, one good game doesn't mean ANYTHING.If one game is all it takes to be successful then Jason Gillipse should be regarded as one of the greatest batsman on earth.

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No, Warne had several good games - and that doesn't mean he didn't do poorly against India overall, but it showed quite conclusively that he can be effective against them.

IndianByHeart said:

Qadir destroyed the best ever team on earth while playing in WI, and you claims that he failed everywhere outside Pakistan!! what a big lie that is! He had success against NZ while playing in NZ and Australia too.

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Err, what? Qadir averaged 38.42 in West Indies where his best game was 8 for two-hundred-and-thirty-one!!!!!!; he averaged 52.10 in New Zealand where he never had a single good game (he took 3 one-fors and once managed 7 for the small matter of one-hundred-and-eighty-seven runs; and he averaged 61 in Australia where, once again, he never had a single good game.

Abdul Qadir only had any success at all in Pakistan.

You are a fool to think that Warne failed against India in all the test only coz he wasn't bowling all that well.Also its just a few Indian batsmen who played Warne well, it was a case of entire 11 eleven Indian batsmen who played Warne with ease in almost all the matches.Batsmen hailing from India are used to play quality spin from their childhood, thats why they find it much easier to tackle leg spin than say swing.Quality spinners like Warne and Qadir failed in India as they were up against the best leg spin players in the game.

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There have never been and never will be 11 players who are all good against spin in a line-up. Some of the best Indian batsmen are excellent players of spin, but to suggest, as you are that Indian-cricketer=good-player-of-spin is bull**** of the highest order.

Richard said:

If you really didn't realise the d was supposed to be a t you're losing the little senses you had...

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If you can't type preperly yet has the balls to criticize others, then you clearly are completely senseless.

Richard said:

No, Warne had several good games - and that doesn't mean he didn't do poorly against India overall, but it showed quite conclusively that he can be effective against them.

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No, he only had one good game against India, you are living in a fool's paradise if u think he had several good games.