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Taibu wants to Qualify for RSA

Langeveldt

Langeveldt

Soutie
Taibu has laid down his future for SA and wants to play for a franchise side..

I welcome the news, but to be honest I'd rather have de Villiers keeping in 5 years time, after all, hes a far superior batsman.. Although hopefully this move would completely edge out Tsolekile from ever playing again for SA
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
There is already quite a few decent wicket keeper batsman in South Africa but who knows in four years time, good luck to him however.
 
Langeveldt

Langeveldt

Soutie
TT Boy said:
There is already quite a few decent wicket keeper batsman in South Africa but who knows in four years time, good luck to him however.
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I'd love to have him playing for the warriors, and its nice to gain a good cricketer..
 
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Steulen

International Regular
Good wicket-keeper, Test and captaincy experience..he'd be a good successor to Boucher. Why not?
 
Langeveldt

Langeveldt

Soutie
Steulen said:
Good wicket-keeper, Test and captaincy experience..he'd be a good successor to Boucher. Why not?
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Because de Villiers is a better test batsman (I'm of the BATSMAN-keeper) argument..

But as a keeper, all round bloke, and leader, I can't fault him, and he's only in his only 20's.. I'd have him in my test team if AB wasn't about.. I'd also have him captain, it would be refreshing
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Steulen said:
Good wicket-keeper, Test and captaincy experience..he'd be a good successor to Boucher. Why not?
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AB would be the next inline one would guess but then there is the likes of Morne van Wyk, Davey Jacobs, Heino Kuhn et cetera, very competent batsman/wicket keepers. Won’t be easy for Taibu but he does have a few things going for him.
 
Loots

Loots

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
I'm with Langeveldt. AB is a good keeper and will make more runs than Taibu. Having said that, Taibu would be a good option in the short-term - But if we want a long term solution to the problem of replacing Boucher, then AB is the man and we have to get him behind the stumps at much as possible.

Does ABdV keep wicket at a domestic level?
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Loots said:
I'm with Langeveldt. AB is a good keeper and will make more runs than Taibu. Having said that, Taibu would be a good option in the short-term - But if we want a long term solution to the problem of replacing Boucher, then AB is the man and we have to get him behind the stumps at much as possible.

Does ABdV keep wicket at a domestic level?
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Only played a few games for the Titans last year but he did keep wicket yes.
 
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Steulen

International Regular
Langeveldt said:
Because de Villiers is a better test batsman (I'm of the BATSMAN-keeper) argument..

But as a keeper, all round bloke, and leader, I can't fault him, and he's only in his only 20's.. I'd have him in my test team if AB wasn't about.. I'd also have him captain, it would be refreshing
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Wouldn't SA be better off with AB playing as a specialist batsman? Haven't seen him keep, but normally he plays as a batsman with Boucher keeping, so if he's a worse keeper than Boucher why bother with AB behind the stumps?
 
Langeveldt

Langeveldt

Soutie
Loots said:
I'm with Langeveldt. AB is a good keeper and will make more runs than Taibu. Having said that, Taibu would be a good option in the short-term - But if we want a long term solution to the problem of replacing Boucher, then AB is the man and we have to get him behind the stumps at much as possible.

Does ABdV keep wicket at a domestic level?
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Welcome Loots, where do you hail in SA?
 
Langeveldt

Langeveldt

Soutie
Steulen said:
Wouldn't SA be better off with AB playing as a specialist batsman? Haven't seen him keep, but normally he plays as a batsman with Boucher keeping, so if he's a worse keeper than Boucher why bother with AB behind the stumps?
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Thinking about when Boucher retires
 
Loots

Loots

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Langeveldt said:
Welcome Loots, where do you hail in SA?
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I don't live in South Africa, I've lived in England all my life but due to having some South African family who live in Cape Town, having watched South Africa play for a number of my first memories in cricket and some of my favourite players being South African (Donald, Hansie, etc...etc...) I've come to support them over the years.
 
Langeveldt

Langeveldt

Soutie
Loots said:
I don't live in South Africa, I've lived in England all my life but due to having some South African family who live in Cape Town, having watched South Africa play for a number of my first memories in cricket and some of my favourite players being South African (Donald, Hansie, etc...etc...) I've come to support them over the years.
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Donald is an absolute superhero of mine, favourite player by miles.. Nice to have another SA fan, pretty much doubles our contingent on here :laugh:
 
Goughy

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Steulen said:
Good wicket-keeper, Test and captaincy experience..he'd be a good successor to Boucher. Why not?
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Because there are better players available.

Even if he was available for South Africa now I would place him 5th on the list of keepers behind (in no particular order)
- Boucher
- De Villiers
- Morne Van Wyk
- Davey Jacobs

Add in the brown eyed boy, Thami Tsolekile and emerging talents such as Heino Kuhn and this move really does nothing for SA cricket.

He would probably only be a marginal upgrade over guys like Matthew Harris (Lions), Duncan Brown (Dolphins) and Arno Jacobs (Warriors).

Its a great idea for him, in terms of career and income, and good luck to him for that. However, from an SA perspective it adds nothing.

Also with the reduction to 6 franchises there are already limited opportunities for many players and chances are further reduced by the quota system. Given the small pool of players available for SA cricket the last thing need is older players past their best like Harvey (Cobras last year) and average overseas players like Blignaut and Taibu clogging up the system.

As I said, good luck to Taibu, as he needs to pay the morgage and put food on the table but from a cricketing POV it makes little sense and would give few franchises (if any) a major upgrade.
 
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silentstriker

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Goughy said:
Because there are better players available.

Even if he was available for South African now I would place him 5th on the list of keepers behind (in no particular order)
- Boucher
- De Villiers
- Morne Van Wyk
- Davey Jacobs

Add in the brown eyed boy, Thami Tsolekile and emerging talents such as Heino Kuhn and this move really does nothing for SA cricket.

He would probably only be a marginal upgrade over guys like Matthew Harris (Lions), Duncan Brown (Dolphins) and Arno Jacobs (Warriors).

Its a great idea for him, in terms of career and income, and good luck to him for that. However, from an SA perspective it adds nothing.

Also with the reduction to 6 franchises there are already limited opportunities for many players and chances are further reduced by the quota system. Given the small pool of players available for SA cricket the last thing need is older players past their best like Harvey (Cobras last year) and average overseas players like Blignaut and Taibu clogging up the system.

As I said, good luck to Taibu, as he needs to pay the morgage and put food on the table but from a cricketing POV it makes little sense and would give few franchises (if any) a major upgrade.
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Well I think its usually a good idea for overseas players to play in a countries domestic tournament. It raises the standard of play, and produces better cricketers. Chances are, the guy that the overseas pro displaced is not good enough to ever challenge for a test cap, so might as well give it to someone who will make others better by raising the standards.
 
Goughy

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
silentstriker said:
Well I think its usually a good idea for overseas players to play in a countries domestic tournament. It raises the standard of play, and produces better cricketers. Chances are, the guy that the overseas pro displaced is not good enough to ever challenge for a test cap, so might as well give it to someone who will make others better by raising the standards.
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They have to be of a high standard. And the whole point of my post was that guys like Taibu would not really raise the standard and are not much better (if at all) than the current players.
I agree with overseas pros if they make a big contribution and are far more talented than the locals. However, this is not the case here or with most overseas pros in SA cricket.
 
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Tomm NCCC

Tomm NCCC

International 12th Man
Tawenda wouldnt make it into the South African test team, or One day for that matter. Besides, when he does qualify for south africa, he'll only want to play for england in a years time
 
silentstriker

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Goughy said:
They have to be of a high standard. And the whole point of my post was that guys like Taibu would not really raise the standard and are not much better (if at all) than the current players.
I agree with overseas pros if they make a big contribution and are far more talented than the locals. However, this is not the case here or with most overseas pros in SA cricket.
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I agree with that. Though I think Taibu may suprise a few. Its a big difference when you play for a side that actually has a chance.
 
adharcric

adharcric

International Coach
There is no way Taibu isn't "good enough" for South African cricket. I can't see how he wouldn't be close to the top in the keeper hierarchy (after Boucher and ABDeV maybe).
He's 23, he's captained a hopeless side and he's scored half centuries (in some form of the game) against every major test-playing nation apart from England and South Africa.
If that isn't promising, I don't know what is.
 
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