Magrat Garlick
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did someone throw motor oil in the match engine or what
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**Official Ireland in England 2020**
- Thread starter Howe_zat
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Bijed
International Regular
His most valuable batting contribution he's made for us, this.
Well done him and Billings for having the sense to play the match situation. I do not want to hear anyone in the England camp excusing the bad dismissals as "the way we play, the way that's brought us success in the past" or "backing our positive approach".
Howe_zat
Audio File
It totally is though. They did this in the world cup semi final and it was amazing.
grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Vince needs binning, Banton needs to concentrate on T20.
Would be nice to see Lawrence and hain get a go now, but neither are in the squad, but Livingstone has to play I presume (yeah sorry
Bijed
International Regular
Oh, I don't mean that is would be inaccurate to say those things, more that it just feels like on the occasions where our approach has come a bit unstuck the "official" attitude is a bit "well yeah, but it's worked before so we'll just keep on doing it."
That semi final was amazing though
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
Dawson really should get a go over Moeen.
Moeen way more talented but his batting is just so careless, and bowling is just defensive. Numbers have been poor for a while. For a guy whose batted in the top 3 and middle order for England in test cricket some of his batting in ODI cricket is completely lacking in common sense and craftsmanship. Batting at 7 is tough but Moeen just doesn't use his head enough. There are times when England batting second are miles ahead of the game and they just need a risk free knock but Moeen doesn't seem to have that ability right now. It shouldn't be that hard to score a fairly risk free 40* off 55 balls in positions like today, and yet we rarely see it from Mo. Of course Dawson doesn't have the ability to score a 53 ball odi hundred like Mo does, but when you've got the rest of top 6 all capable of scoring hundreds in 75 balls or less, and the likes of Woakes/willey behind him you can afford to lose a bit of power for some composure/stability. Dawson maybe not upto it but Moeen doesn't deserve his place in the team imo.
Good for depth that Willey and BIllings doing well.
Moeen way more talented but his batting is just so careless, and bowling is just defensive. Numbers have been poor for a while. For a guy whose batted in the top 3 and middle order for England in test cricket some of his batting in ODI cricket is completely lacking in common sense and craftsmanship. Batting at 7 is tough but Moeen just doesn't use his head enough. There are times when England batting second are miles ahead of the game and they just need a risk free knock but Moeen doesn't seem to have that ability right now. It shouldn't be that hard to score a fairly risk free 40* off 55 balls in positions like today, and yet we rarely see it from Mo. Of course Dawson doesn't have the ability to score a 53 ball odi hundred like Mo does, but when you've got the rest of top 6 all capable of scoring hundreds in 75 balls or less, and the likes of Woakes/willey behind him you can afford to lose a bit of power for some composure/stability. Dawson maybe not upto it but Moeen doesn't deserve his place in the team imo.
Good for depth that Willey and BIllings doing well.
grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Moeens place in limited overs has always been on different type stats then we normally use as a good cricketer, yes he doesn't score quite enough runs, but when he does his strike-rate is awesome, and he doesn't take enough wickets but his run-rate is low.
I am not convinced myself, actually think we should try to get Bess ( hideous record at list a, but only 15 games played at 23)playing more limited overs, but nothing excites me about the definition of meh Dawson, but maybe he should get a run if only to justify all the England Stipends he's picked up.
I am not convinced myself, actually think we should try to get Bess ( hideous record at list a, but only 15 games played at 23)playing more limited overs, but nothing excites me about the definition of meh Dawson, but maybe he should get a run if only to justify all the England Stipends he's picked up.
Starfighter
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Fancy opening up the highlights to find that Reece Topley is a thing again (though still not bowling as quickly as he did in u19 iirc) and James Vince picking up a wicket (though granted, he looks way better a bowler than Jonathan Trott).
Ollie pope will be a good addition to the odi squad i think
grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I would normally agree, but I am so frustrated that Hain is not there, I could get angry at others leap-frogging him.
I genuinely feel England selectors are just being stubborn now, and worried he'll prove them wrong.
Howe_zat
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Just a clear opportunity in this series in general really. Home ground, three games, mostly low scores to chase, familiar county-esque bowling attack. Still no good.